CS:S rate settings in perspect of FPS
CS:S rate settings in perspect of FPS
Here’s proof how players fool themselves to see what’s not there.
Some players claim they see when someone has “bad rates”. “Bad rate” meaning someone has such low “cmdrate” that his movement seems laggy.
Players spotting these “bad raters” claim it’s difficult to hit them, because their movement is so blocky. Then, after the “bad rate” player changes his rates to match the maximum, the “better” players are pleased.
Anyway, the high rate settings are nearly meaningless for significant share of players. If a player’s computer is not capable of rendering the number of frames per second to match the cmdrate, there won’t be noticeable change in the player’s movement. The cmdrate will be limited by the number of frames the player’s computer is capable of rendering.
Conclusions
Most of the time the whining about “bad raters” is plain superstition. Players trust too much on the numbers they see on the server’s status table. Good values on the table don’t reflect the truth. Large part of the players play on computers which can’t hold high enough FPS to meet server’s requirements. Thus, the low-end players will seem the same way as they’ve always have regardless of their settings.
Players with low-end computers with good values on the status table don’t get bashed for being “bad raters”, although they send the same amount of data to the server as
the players who in real have low rate settings.
Unproven suggestions
Players with low-end computers should have their rate settings to match what they can
produce. Trying to reach high rates could as well cause more trouble for the low FPS players as it could give benefit. Reaching for two times the maximum is hardly ever the best practice. That’s why it might be good idea to set the settings to what really can be achieved. Maybe that way the game will be smoother and there won’t be so many ups and downs making the gameplay jerky. After all, having the settings reflect the real performance would affect the gameplay in positive way at worst.
The experiment
Two players for the experiment were chosen by their FPS. One player has high-end computer, which can run the game smoothly, rendering almost constantly over 100 frames per second. The other player has low-end computer, which is incapable of rendering the
number of frames per second to match the server’s tickrate value.
The server’s tickrate value is 66, and both players have their “cl_cmdrate” and “cl_updaterate” set to 100.
The idea is to see how much data the two players send to the server. The game settings related to network connection are set to the same, so it is to be expected to see the same amount of data.
Results
The most clear indication of difference caused by lower FPS is seen in the amount of data received by the server from the players. The player with high FPS sends two times more data on the server than the player with low FPS.
In certain view it’s the same as the player with low FPS would have rate settings set to half of the high FPS player. However, looking at the one second sample data it can be noted that the low FPS player often drops down to 20 packets per second, which is over three times lower than the player with high FPS.
Note also, that the number of packets per second from the low FPS player is in the boundaries of 25 to 40, which is the average FPS of the player. The high FPS player is capped by server settings, which shouldn’t accept more than 66 updates per second.
Players’ CS:S Game Settings
Both players have over 1Mbit connection.
| Name | rate | cmd | update | Average FPS |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| k1ller | 30000 | 100 | 100 | Over 100 |
| @nDr3w | 30000 | 100 | 100 | 25 to 40 |
Data sent to server between 23:40 - 00:20 (40 minutes)
| Name | # of Packets | Amount of Data |
|---|---|---|
| k1ller | 161K | 12M |
| @nDr3w | 80K | 6M |
Data samples every second for 10 minute period.
The line contains the time, followed by
"Name=[number of packets received by the server per second]"
Thu Jul 12 23:40:11 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=69 @nDr3w=39
Thu Jul 12 23:40:12 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=39
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Thu Jul 12 23:46:48 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=67 @nDr3w=31
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Thu Jul 12 23:47:47 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=66 @nDr3w=23
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Thu Jul 12 23:47:56 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=31
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Thu Jul 12 23:47:59 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=66 @nDr3w=31
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Thu Jul 12 23:48:05 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=37
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Thu Jul 12 23:48:41 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=67 @nDr3w=23
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Thu Jul 12 23:49:09 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=67 @nDr3w=31
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Thu Jul 12 23:49:27 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=23
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Thu Jul 12 23:49:31 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=20
Thu Jul 12 23:49:32 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=23
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Thu Jul 12 23:49:36 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=22
Thu Jul 12 23:49:37 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=69 @nDr3w=17
Thu Jul 12 23:49:38 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=67 @nDr3w=19
Thu Jul 12 23:49:39 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=69 @nDr3w=21
Thu Jul 12 23:49:40 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=67 @nDr3w=18
Thu Jul 12 23:49:41 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=69 @nDr3w=24
Thu Jul 12 23:49:42 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=27
Thu Jul 12 23:49:43 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=23
Thu Jul 12 23:49:44 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=29
Thu Jul 12 23:49:45 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=31
Thu Jul 12 23:49:46 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=32
Thu Jul 12 23:49:47 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=66 @nDr3w=30
Thu Jul 12 23:49:48 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=30
Thu Jul 12 23:49:49 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=69 @nDr3w=31
Thu Jul 12 23:49:50 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=69 @nDr3w=31
Thu Jul 12 23:49:51 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=29
Thu Jul 12 23:49:53 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=28
Thu Jul 12 23:49:54 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=29
Thu Jul 12 23:49:55 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=26
Thu Jul 12 23:49:56 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=26
Thu Jul 12 23:49:57 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=67 @nDr3w=28
Thu Jul 12 23:49:58 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=67 @nDr3w=27
Thu Jul 12 23:49:59 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=26
Thu Jul 12 23:50:00 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=32
Thu Jul 12 23:50:01 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=69 @nDr3w=35
Thu Jul 12 23:50:02 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=33
Thu Jul 12 23:50:03 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=30
Thu Jul 12 23:50:04 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=66 @nDr3w=27
Thu Jul 12 23:50:05 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=25
Thu Jul 12 23:50:06 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=24
Thu Jul 12 23:50:08 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=23
Thu Jul 12 23:50:09 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=23
Thu Jul 12 23:50:10 EEST 2007 ^ k1ller=68 @nDr3w=28
Technical view
The script used to compile these stats is quite simple. The script parses
the output of Linux’s default firewall program “iptables”. First the
script runs iptables command and parses values from the output for the
initial values. Then the script waits for one second, after which it does
exactly the same as the first time. This way it gets two data samples, from
which it can calculate how many packets were send during one second.
The script runs continuously until interrupted. It prints one line every second.
In preparation there must be set two firewall rules, which keep track of the data.
iptables -I INPUT -p udp –dport 27015 -s x.x.x.x
iptables -I INPUT -p udp –dport 27015 -s y.y.y.y
Where x.x.x.x and y.y.y.y are the IPs of the players.
The script was run for 10 minutes by following command:
"./rate-stat.sh & sleep 600; killall rate-stat.sh"
The script (rate-stat.sh)
#!/bin/sh
port=27015
host1=x.x.x.x
host2=y.y.y.y
while [ 1 ]
do
start1=`iptables -L -v -n -x|grep $host1|grep dpt:$port|sed ’s/^ *//g’|cut -f 1 -d ” “`
start2=`iptables -L -v -n -x|grep $host2|grep dpt:$port|sed ’s/^ *//g’|cut -f 1 -d ” “`
sleep 1
end1=`iptables -L -v -n -x|grep $host1|grep $port|sed ’s/^ *//g’|cut -f 1 -d ” “`
end2=`iptables -L -v -n -x|grep $host2|grep $port|sed ’s/^ *//g’|cut -f 1 -d ” “`
if [ “$end1″ -a “$start1″ -a “$end2″ -a “$start2″ ]
then
echo `date` ^ $host1=$(($end1-$start1)) $host2=$(($end2-$start2))
fi
done
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http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Lag_Compensation
That page explains quite a lot how networking in CS:S works. It also explains why “network code” is better in CS:S than it was in CS1.6.
“The end result of lag compensation is that each local client is able to directly aim at other players without having to worry about leading his or her target in order to score a hit.”
“The first problem of the old system was that you had to lead your target by some amount that was related to your latency to the server. Aiming directly at another player and pressing the fire button was almost assured to miss that player. The inconsistency here is that aiming is just not realistic and that the player controls have non-predictable responsiveness.”
People have complained lots about hitboxes being in wrong place. What is said on that wikipage (which is written by the people who actually designed and implemented the whole system) says exactly the opposite. It is also common to say that in CS1.6 it is harder to shoot headshots - wonder why? (One reason might also be that the head model in CS1.6 is reportedly smaller than in CS:S :).
Comment :: July 23, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
[…] Effect of FPS to accuracy was tested by shooting at a wall with M4 (without silencer) and recording exact coordinates where bullets hit. This was possible with Mattie Eventsrcripts. 90 bullets were fired with both 25 FPS and over 100 FPS. Another computer was 3100 Sempron (that is slow!) and another one E6300 Core Duo (very fast!!). Expected result was that 100 FPS player would shoot more accurately than 25 FPS player [Read: Rate settings in perspect of FPS]. Server was running with 66 tickrate. […]
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