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Posted 12 August 2012 - 02:07 AM

1) 8/11/12 12:15 pm GMT
2) (The setti de_dust2 only)
3) SteamID ( STEAM_0:0:15714346 )
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5) Nick when you got banned ([Clot_Lovers] spixel)
6) Banned by Sculder



Hi, I was playing on setti d2 yesterday minding my own business then I got banned.

I was playing for 5 or 6 rounds until I killed sculder.

My ping was 104, the ping limit for the server is 150. Another player had the same ping but he wasn't banned.

I was also never banned by another admin because of this and I used to play on setti very often a few months - a year ago under the name LOL THE PIRATE KNIFER.

Damage Given to "Sculder" - 110 in 1 hit

*DEAD* Sculder : spixel u dailed to fix ur lag
*DEAD* Sculder : failed
*DEAD* Sculder : so gtfo
[Clot Lovers]spixel : upset because i killed you? i've had this net for 6 years its just how it is
Sculder : cause I kill you?
Sculder : no idiots
Sculder : i was saying that for some time now
(ADMIN) Sculder: banned player [Clot Lovers]spixel
You have been banned by Admin for 1440 minutes
Disconnect: Banned (By Admin).
Disconnect: Banned (By Admin).

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 06:23 AM

If anyone is interested here is a link to the demo

http://css.setti.inf...03-de_dust2.dem

Tick number 50,000

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 08:43 AM

Change rates to 66 and dont fuck with suclder.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 09:28 AM

Change rates to 66 and dont fuck with suclder.


25000/66/66 are the rates I use. and doesn't having the wrong rate reduce your ping.. not increase it :)

This is the 3rd time in the past week or so he has banned me for 24 hours.

Why can't I just enjoy playing on setti ? I dont rage, I dont flame people, I dont tk.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 12:57 PM

Maybe you lagged sometimes or something.. Because even if your ping is 100, you can still have lags.. And for example if you running or moving, another player cant kill you, you can suddenly move fast or just lag.. Just when you have this shit just restart your router or pc.. And when sculder tell you fix your lag, just try to fix it.. If you wont the result will be in ban...

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:52 PM

Maybe you lagged sometimes or something.. Because even if your ping is 100, you can still have lags.. And for example if you running or moving, another player cant kill you, you can suddenly move fast or just lag.. Just when you have this shit just restart your router or pc.. And when sculder tell you fix your lag, just try to fix it.. If you wont the result will be in ban...


If only fixing 'ping' was that easy :) How do you expect me to fix it? Yes my ping is high but I don't lag. Watch the demo.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:54 PM

To end this I ban you permanently. When you get below 120ms PM me. It isn't the rates. Its your "Eircom" ISP. You told me yourself that its shit. And I know cause I had it too before UPC. My mistake was I didn't ban you long time ago. This is final. I had it with your nonsense "he banned me cause I killed him".

PS: your ping is 130-140, EVEN if its 10ms I would still ban you. I don't like people teleporting in CSS. Play Portal.

EDIT: Players from russia have 90-100ms pings. Why the ping increase to 150? So players with broken nets can join? You can't depend on system to do this job. Like KAC. Most cheaters need to be banned manually. With ping-kick is the same.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 05:11 AM

To end this I ban you permanently. When you get below 120ms PM me. It isn't the rates. Its your "Eircom" ISP. You told me yourself that its shit. And I know cause I had it too before UPC. My mistake was I didn't ban you long time ago. This is final. I had it with your nonsense "he banned me cause I killed him".

PS: your ping is 130-140, EVEN if its 10ms I would still ban you. I don't like people teleporting in CSS. Play Portal.

EDIT: Players from russia have 90-100ms pings. Why the ping increase to 150? So players with broken nets can join? You can't depend on system to do this job. Like KAC. Most cheaters need to be banned manually. With ping-kick is the same.



You are going by ping in console not scoreboard.

My ping on scoreboard is 100-110 at most. Ping limits enforced by servers go by this.

If you are banning people over 120 by console ping command then you will need to ban ALOT of people... everyone over 80ms latency. If this is the case, alot of regular players along with me should receive permanent bans. Maybe its because I'm a better player than you and kill you all the time?

I do not teleport. PROVE that I teleport and I'll accept the ban. Look at the demo I posted above and tell me where I am lagging? You saw me, you shot, you missed. I killed you. You say I was lagging and ban me. Here is what happened

1. I jumped over the ledge and saw someone with an awp.
2. I strafed to the left to try get out of your view asap
3. You shoot and miss due to my strafing.
4. I hear the awp shot so knowing you can't shoot again right away I strafe back to the right and get 2 deagle shots in.
5. You die.


You have no idea how css netcode works. CSS is an online game, every player has different ping so the game has alot of ways to make it as irrelevant as possible to make the game fair for everyone (interp,prediction etc). If a player from china with 400 ping was playing, you wouldn't even realise it unless you looked on the scoreboard. As long as the internet is stable there is no 'warping' or teleporting'.
I have been playing css since 2005 with this same internet on hundreds of public servers and have never been permanently banned from any server because of my ping. That just goes to show how wrong your decision is. Infact, nobody has ever complained. I even play on some US public servers with 150 latency (around 190 ping in console). Sure, some people say.. hey your ping is high but nothing more.

You take things far too seriously, do you actually think I deserve a permanent ban? I think you are just looking for attention. I was playing with you today on setti d2 server for 4 or 5 hours and you didn't ban me, why the change of heart now?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 05:31 AM

And some info about ping and latency difference.

Latency on the scoreboard is the time it takes for my mouseclick to register with the server.

Ping in console is the round trip, back to me. So again, ping in console should not be important to you as it only refers to how long it takes information to be sent back to me. (This is why ping limits enforced by the server are based on latency) Everybody will have a ping 30-40ms higher than their latency unless playing on LAN. Your own ping is what's important. In fact, players with higher ping have a disadvantage over lowered ping players and vice versa.

You must have banned me because you think I have an advantage (higher ping makes it harder for you to hit me? Why else would my ping bother you?) This simply isn't true though unless I was warping around the place. This only happens when people download + play css or because of a poor quality line causing large jumps in ping constantly as the player isn't able to send enough updates to the server to make movement smooth. Here's a screenshot I just took to show I have 0 packet loss, my ping is high but the line quality is good. http://i48.tinypic.com/29lczkw.jpg

Believe me I would rather have a lower ping. When I said my internet is bad, I didn't mean its 'permanent bannable bad'.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:03 AM

You just going to vote down my posts and not bother to reply Sculder?

I'm sure 99.999 percent of players on setti wouldn't mind if I was playing there with 100 latency. Nobody else complains except you. As I said, many regular players have the same ping as me. Are you going to permanently ban all them as well?

I can't believe you have given a permanent ban for 100 latency, does that sound fair to anybody else here? Unhead of.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 02:38 PM

Yes he has ~100 ping, but he's not lagging, warping or something like this, as far as I can see in the demo. I see no reason for ban.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:20 PM

i dont think u will see any lag in demo headHUNTERZ...
anyway lag= permban???? cmon unban the pirate
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:33 PM

Thanks for support greco + headhunterz, I really don't think this ban is justified at all. Permanent bans are for cheaters and trouble makers.

Sculder, remove the ban and whenever we are playing at the same time, I will leave so you won't have to worry about me lagging.

How does that sound?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:51 PM

i dont think u will see any lag in demo headHUNTERZ...

Yes now I know, but I thought since the demo records what the server got, it must also record the lagging :S Now I know it's wrong, I don't really understand why, but who cares :P

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:12 PM

Server gathers console's information for ping limit. Not scoreboard's one. Since your ping is 100 on scoreboard it is going to be 140 (at least) in console. If I was you I would just find ways to improve my internet connection (like I did)
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:18 PM

Download 7.62 MB/s? Ping 15ms? Fuck you, just do it! ;)

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:22 PM

Server gathers console's information for ping limit. Not scoreboard's one. Since your ping is 100 on scoreboard it is going to be 140 (at least) in console. If I was you I would just find ways to improve my internet connection (like I did)
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Noo.. it goes by latency on scoreboard....im pretty sure. If the limit is set to 120 I still won't be kicked until my scoreboard goes past it.

I checked earlier playing on setti #1 and my ping in console was 127 ( exactly 100 latency ) but I wasn't kicked even though it has limit of 120. Another player with 80 latency also had ~120 ping in console.

I have the best internet I can get, and I am pretty far from setti server location but there's nothing bad about 100 ping, alot of players on setti have similar.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:30 PM

ps marioc.. i think you are beat by this :D

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 09:01 AM

So Sculder, are you going to unban me? You have given me a permanent ban for 100 latency which is completely unfair.

As I said I will leave the server whenever you are playing so you have no real reason to keep me banned now.


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Posted 15 August 2012 - 02:43 PM

I am still banned :(

Since Sculder doesn't have the courtesy to even respond (only view the thread as an anonymous user and negative my posts) can another admin deal with this for me?




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