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#21 Heady

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 10:24 PM

The third admin group makes perfect sense. The setti admin hierarchy just doesn't make sense (anymore). Why do I have full admin rights on CS servers, when I'm only keeping the servers up-to-date?
Or even better, the other way round. Why do I have full access to the root server and forum system, when I only want to permanently ban players? Why does one skill qualifies me for everything else?

The third admin group isn't the perfect solution, that's obvious; but it makes sense. You can't be sure that the admins will do everything right. You can't be sure that they won't change their attitude once they got more rights. But is that reason enough to leave every admin with 6h ban rights?
Let's face it, ban requests are annoying. Waiting until the demo file is available, then finding the correct one. Noting the ticks. Etc. That's not really practicable.

Admins should prove that they do a good job. If their ban requests are fine and they show some forum activity, they should be eveluated for permanent ban rights. If they abuse their rights, reports will come. Maybe not on the first abuse, but they will come.

About your missiles example, I don't think it fits well. Launching for example a nuclear weapon isn't figuratively comparable to banning one person. I think a police officer fits better. He's like some kind of real life admin. At one point of his qualification, he's handed over a gun. Now he can shoot, and kill, if necessary. The country trusts him to use the gun wisely. If he abuses it, he will be arrested.

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Posted 24 September 2015 - 11:04 PM

Be careful there hHZ. You may get a lot of lectures now and get called abusive.



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Posted 25 September 2015 - 09:50 AM

Did you ever try to kill a player like those ~20 fps ones? Even they can't play with those fps they have. Not to mention that you can't even hit them. And despite that, they don't understand that their PC can't handle the game! But hey! If Heady also thinks that it's unfair, i unban every signle one of them.

 

He never banned me for lagging. He banned me for raping his ass with awp: http://css.setti.inf...magine-who-was/

 

No i didn't. That guy is playing via ~10 accounts or so. Half of them are owned by him and half by others. Those who are owned by him are mainly for CS:GO. He goes lem or supreme and then he sells them. And i don't check the accounts of my Steam friends. I rarely do it.

 

About that my advice to all of you is to forget the past, FINALLY END this, get in the servers, open scoreboard and block communication with each other so you are always happy.

 

"It's like somene is hacking and I turn my hack on to even this out, but you should only ban the guy who started first."

Exactly. And that's not gonna happen. So if i start punishing, i will punish you all so i am fine with my self.

 

If my values and beliefs were changed, i wouldn't try for days to solve the problems that 4 people have between them for 1 week or so, so they are all happy. If they were changed i wouldn't add 2 limited admins so they provide a game without cheaters to the rest of the players. I would say "Why should i add admins? I don't play there for hours. Who cares about the players there.." 

 

Heady as you can see, i added 2 limited admins so they help me on cleaning the servers from the cheaters and here is my position now. Here is where that brought me. So tell me what you suggest me do so i'm done with this. Should i put every active admin in the full admin group? Just tell me what i should do and i do it.


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Posted 25 September 2015 - 12:25 PM

And that's not gonna happen. So if i start punishing, i will punish you all so i am fine with my self.

 

I insist on my previous statement. Please do start punishing. To be honest though, you will have to punish yourself first and foremost. You've done everything you accussed other head admins for.

 

- you allowed a certain clique of players (who are licking hard your balls) to bully around the server

 

- you gave admin out of nowhere to 2 guys (for the good of Setti ofc) one of them is proved bad choice, and I have no opinion about the other one because I've never met him

 

- you verbally abuse other players in a manner (wishing them to get cancer multiple times) that I honestly haven't seen from any other admin in my 41/2 years of presence* on Setti.

 

- you let a vac banned player shitting the servers (C'mon Snipy don't tell me that you didn't know. You can smell cheaters from miles away)

 

The notorious clique have never complained about it nor they signed up in forums to protest that behaviour. They were busy licking your balls clean.

 

 

If that's your standards for a good admin then I beg to differ, and I should be the first to be punished because I don't fall into any of the above categories. Proven with facts.

 

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#25 SNiPY

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 01:46 PM

No i don't. There result will be no admins at all in the servers. Instead, i asked Heady to tell me his suggestion. If he recommends every active admin in the full admin group, so be it then.

 

And i ask again. Is there any other player besides you who is annoyed from those players? If it's just you, contact with them and solve this. If those players annoy others too, then it's fine for me to take action against them!

 

Alright. If Heady agrees too i remove his rights. What can i say.

 

Yeah others insult mothers or whatever i say that instead. Sorry but God didn't make me perfect. Damn it.  :confused: 

 

I can smell cheaters when we are both in the same game and server. Smelling a CS:S VAC ban from CS:GO is beyond my powers. Sorry.

 

When you say "notorious clique" do you mean Nina, killroy and dicknipple? Because if you mean them i think they already have forum accounts. And they are already complaining.

 

Nah.. You are right. I'm the worst admin ever. I will think about transfering my head admin rights to you. I'm sure you will do much better work than me. And all i will do then will be just play in the servers.


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Posted 25 September 2015 - 03:07 PM

How can you know it's a CSS ban? In your previous post you said you didn't know anything.
And how does a CSS VAC doesn't affect your judgement for CSGO? Besides, you are still an active CSS player too.
With 7.4 hours on CSS and 123 hours on CSGO, allow to me doubt the CSS ban.
 
Once a cheater always a cheater, remember? You said he's boosting accs and then he is selling them. Addtionally, you said that you have played together on MM. I've seen him in-game, if that guy is boosting to lem-supreme w/o haxx then I should consider sending an application to fnatic. There's no way you haven't caught him using haxxx
 
Please check his profile and you will find a comment on 10 September from someone called Fonzi. It's probably his smurf account. So, neither Fonzi told you anything about it?
 
Also there's one more old regular player who has been Vac banned ~1500 days ago and he's a good friend of you, and as a matter of fact he's a member of your clan.
I'm pretty sure that 1500 days are more than your steam account ex6tenz. Meaning that he was already VAC banned when you befriended him. This is called criminal harboring.
 
When Hunter was found VAC banned was instantly punished... Props to Hunter who instantly admitted his fault as you have told me.
VAC ban or game ban == setti ban
That's what you said.
 
The problem of course will not be resolved by banning the guy I'm referring to. There are a lot of inconsistencies and shady things in the air that can't be easily ignored.
 
Who cares, I am the bad admin who's muting innocent kids. Oh and I use the words "nigger" and "cock" giving the bad example to those innocent kids who have never heard or used these words before.  :)
Oh one more thing. I told one player to die (meaning in-game death) but nobody is going to believe me :(
 
p.s Thanks for the offer, but don't bother transferring me your head admin rights. I will ask the right person when I'm ready and when the time is right.


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Posted 25 September 2015 - 03:22 PM

Did you ever try to kill a player like those ~20 fps ones? Even they can't play with those fps they have. Not to mention that you can't even hit them. And despite that, they don't understand that their PC can't handle the game! But hey! If Heady also thinks that it's unfair, i unban every signle one of them.

 

A plugin would be optimal to detect them. Permanent ban sounds a bit harsh, what if they fix their network/hardware?

 

Heady as you can see, i added 2 limited admins so they help me on cleaning the servers from the cheaters and here is my position now. Here is where that brought me. So tell me what you suggest me do so i'm done with this. Should i put every active admin in the full admin group? Just tell me what i should do and i do it.

 

It's problematic. There should have been some kind of public admin request of course (I guess there wasn't).

But how would this one have looked like? Admin request with the first post? There isn't so much activity at the forum for new members to participate. At least there should have been some ban request to prove some kind of skill.

 

So maybe there should have been some kind of public admin request from your side. Explaining why you're adding new admins to the servers that are unknown at the forum (and there where obviously good reasons to add them). Then, other members would have the option to 1) see what's going on & 2) share their opinion.

 

Tell the admins to create ban requests. I don't really see university etc as an excuse here. If you have time to play CS and want to be an admin, you should also have the time to do the necessary work. Giving every admin permanent ban rights isn't the right way. Give it to the people who have proven that they deserve it.

 

PS: Sorry for late replies. My internet is broken...



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Posted 25 September 2015 - 03:48 PM

I see the permban request > i see Vag online on Steam > i send him pm and i tell him there is a permban request about him > he asks the link, i give it to him > i learn about the VAC.

Why? Does someone need more than 7.4 hours to load a cheat? :o

 

Well, if he was cheating in CS:GO and while we were playing mm, he would already have been banned i think. And i wouldn't still be supreme because if someone from those you go mm with gets banned, VOLVo removes the wins from the reast too. We are playing CS:GO mm together often. I didn't see anything weird on him. If he cheated in CS:S, not my problem. I don't know if playing for Fnatic is in his plans. :P

 

Who are you talking about? CVLK? He hasn't only one account. Only 1 of his 2 accounts is VAC banned. It's a CS:S VAC ban if i remember well. He just asked me to put that account in the team too.

 

About what i said:

I'm in game > someone looks suspicious, i spec a while, i'm almost 100% convinced he is cheating > i google his SteamID > i see he is a Steam player > i check his profile > i see VAC ban > i ban

 

No problem. :)


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Posted 25 September 2015 - 04:04 PM

Heady do you know any way to detect the fps of a player through SM? And if they fix their hardware they can come here and ask for unban any time they want. But anyway. Probably you are right. It's a bit harsh. I guess i have to unban them.

 

Mrozy was and still is making permban requests. Speechless was reporting them to me on Steam.

 

Yeah my bad.

 

Alright. So! Speechless won't make permban requests i guess. So i remove his rights, right?

Ellanios is accurate, old admin, he deserves it, so he becomes full admin. Done.

Same goes with MYNAME. Done.

Let me know if there is any other active limited admin who deserves to be full admin.

 

P.S. Heady if anything goes wrong due to this change, you are responsible.


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#30 Ellanios

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 07:29 PM

Want to fix the fps problem (not completely but still...)? Reduce the player slots to 24 or 22. Yesterday at some point we were 20 players online and not even Joker was complaining about lags,bad reg, fps problems. That alone says a lot.

 

Many players have suggested it but you don't listen. (I know you like to pwn more noobs every round you little rascal hehe)

 

It's kind of pointless to make me full admin. We both know that you will remove my rights once you get the first chance of seeing me inactive. :P

 

You can see the bright side of it. I will get to be the bad cop, and you will be the good one! win-win situation! :-D

 

It's pointless to hold hHZ responsible for anything wrong that may happen! What if he replies like "Snipy, don't forget that I was the one who made you blue while everyone else was against it." Remember how everyone was trashing Heady for making you blue?

 

Come on man, you act like you are afraid you will lose a slice of the big Setti pie. Don't worry, you are still the man here. Top player and devoted admin. The rest of us are far far behind.  

 

Better now?  :)

 

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#31 SNiPY

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Posted 25 September 2015 - 08:02 PM

I will think about it.

Hahah yeah. :D
Well, no. I just like to have as many players as possible in the servers.

If you are going to be inactive for at least one year...

No. What i remember is my head admin request pm full of positive votes by other blues. ;)

I haven't felt of losing anything since the day i came here. :)

Nice. I will consider posting more stuff like that more often so i make your day. :D


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Posted 25 September 2015 - 09:44 PM

Oh holy shit, whats going on here.

Im usually just checking the Setti CS Community part of the forum, so I didn´t found this "discussion" until now^^

As you talked about my ban, well I always make a perm-ban request (I mean, who doesn´t get it that if u don´t make a request, the cheaters won´t be banned soon and they can crush the server everytime there i no admin)

--> I just did it on the next day, I mean cmon thats still ok isn´t it :)



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Posted 25 September 2015 - 10:06 PM

I can't believe what I'm reading.

I've read a lot of good points in this discussion, but first and foremost, let's all calm down.

I still haven't read the last 1/3 of the topic as I haven't had the time, but I will get back to that in a few hours or so (and post my full reply).

But from what I can gather, I just want to ask a few simple questions.

Who are our CS admins?

Can somebody provide a list of them? 

When I say CS admins, I mean the active CS admins who have any rights now.

I'll be posting my reply here later, after I very carefully read and re-read every post here. In the meantime, it would be awesome if somebody could answer the questions above.


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Posted 26 September 2015 - 08:05 AM

@myname

Yeah it's still ok. Besides i said that on a previous post of mine. I don't care even if the admin makes the permban request the next day. What matters for me is i see permban request in the end. But hey! Ellanios said that old admins like him and you deserve to be in the full admin group so to be able to permban etc. Heady agreed so congratulations for both of you! Now you are both in the full admin group just like FonZi and Joker as well. No more permban requests for you two!  :clap: 

 

@TheMisaGen

The active admins in the CS:GO servers are Joker, myname, Mrozy, Ellanios and Speechless that i'm still waiting reply from Heady about him, about if he agrees i remove his admin rights.


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Posted 04 October 2015 - 07:40 PM

And what's with me. I am not active??? . Eight years I serve setti servers and I'm still here. I've made hundreds ban requests and video proves. :evil:

I feel rejected :-(



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Posted 04 October 2015 - 07:57 PM

And i feel that i have only one brain to remember people and things. You are full admin now.


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 03:54 PM

I would like to a give standing ovation to Snipy who just unbanned a person who's been vac banned before.
A person who blatantly admits that even if I ban him Snipy will remove his ban.
 
Snipy banned Gamble for cheating with no solid proof like vac ban. (Even though I agree he was cheating but still...)
 
Snipy banned Hunter after Fonzi found out that Hunter is vac banned.
 
So why you unbanned the guy that I've just banned? Without even letting him bother making an unban request. Another rule broken.
And don't tell me again that it was a CS:S ban and it was long time ago etc etc because here the rule is VAC Ban == Setti ban. No exceptions have been so far except now. You are the only admin who makes exceptions and lets your vac banned friends play here.
 
People change after all... But, unfortunately for many kids here, I haven't. I'm still a stubborn motherfucker who will voice his opinion no matter what. Proved throught my presence of almost 5 years here.
 
Snipy let his other Greek friend who has been vac banned just 20 days ago. Claiming at first that he didn't know anything, and then excusing his friend that he only cheated on CS:S and it has nothing to do with CS:GO.
 
Snipy is the one who were making poles about how server should be configured but finally does the opposite of the pole's result disregarding our votes and disabled friendly fire. A feature that was always on as long as I remember Setti.
 
Snipy hired 2 admins disregarding a procedure that was going on for years.
 
Snipy allows his sidekicks to bully around the server because they think they have protection.
 
Snipy used to permban guys who couldn't kill with the reason of "low fps". Now he progressed to 1 week ban covered up as a "general exploit".
 
The list can go on and on but I stil can't get a proper answer for the above questions so there's no point in keep going.
 
Tell me what's your difference between you and the old admins you were blaming? But talk honestly like a man. Don't keep talking bs like you did on previous posts.
 
I can go full autist and repeat this shit all over again until you answer honestly. Like a man.


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 04:26 PM

css VAC = setti CSS ban and CSGO VAC = Setti CSGO ban, IMO :popcorn: and that "person" was me obviously. I've told to Snipy many times that I got VAC from CSS and also I've been banned from Setti servers before from cheating in non-steam client when I was ignorant kid...



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Posted 05 October 2015 - 04:55 PM

1) Unban reason of JWho a.k.a THECVLK: "CVLK is not cheating in CS:GO. And that VAC ban on his smurf account is a CS:S VAC ban which invoked 1633 days ago."

 

2) Comment by me on your ban: "And spectate before you ban next time."

 

3) I wonder why he was saying that i will remove his ban then. :lol:

 

4) You agree that Gamble was cheating but you are also complaining that i banned him. lel

 

5) No. I banned HUNTER after i asked him via PM to tell me everything and he told me that he was cheating in Setti for around 3 years. I can give you screenshots of the PM if you want. Thanks. :D

 

6) Read "1)" for the unban reason. Broken rule? What about the other broken rule? Did you spec him before you ban him?  :thumbsup:

 

7) VAC ban = Setti ban rule? Where is that rule written and i haven't seen it yet? :o

 

8) I let my VAC banned friends play here? Can you name them please? :D

 

9) That Greek friend of mine IS NOT CHEATING IN CS:GO, IT IS A CS:S VAC BAN, I DIN'T KNOW ABOUT HIS VAC BAN, HE IS PERMBANNED FROM SETTI AFTER PERMBAN REQUEST BY YOU FOR MIC SPAMMING AND YOU ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT HIM?! WTF DO YOU WANT ME TO DO SO YOU ARE FUCKING HAPPY?! KILL HIM IN REAL LIFE?! FFS!

 

10) Where were you when everyone was TAing/TKing in the CS:GO server?!?!?! Ohhhh yeeeeesss!!! INCACTIVE!

 

11) Where were you and many others except Joker and MYNAME when i had to deal with so many cheaters in the CS:GO servers fucking alone? Ohhhh yeeeess!!! INCATIVE!! At least the others don't say anything because they know i hired them because i needed to and i had to! But here is what mr. Ellanios is suggesting. Don't add new admins and let the servers suffer from cheaters until the inactive admins we already have become active again or some regulars start having the desire to become admins so they make limited admin requests at the forum. Till then, suffer from cheaters or shut down the servers!! YEEEEEAHHH!!!!  :facepalm: 

 

12) You mute them or ban them because it's only you who is annoyed and you don't want to hear them and then you are complaining that they bull you? Or should the others be annoyed too just because you are annoyed?

 

13) They can't kill and they also can't be hit! If you can't see that, not my problem. The other players in the server can. And within that 1 week he has time to boost his fps by installing a config or upgrade his pc. It's not permban, since that is harsh as some people said here. Btw Joker also bans sometimes for the same reason. Why don't you complain about his bans? Oh yes. It's me in your stomach, not Joker. :D

 

14) I don't give a damn if you continue or not. I'm already tired of all this and most of all, i'm tired of you and your replies in this topic. And if my previous posts were bullshit, imagine yours! We have already 5 people complaining about you (the 5th one hasn't come here to post yet) and then we have only 1 guy complaining about me. You. I have already dealt with some here in the past. Milky Pie, Marioc, Sculder.. as i see it, you are just one more! :P

 

15) You will repeat this shit all over again until i answer honestly?! Really?! So i'm also not honest now. And what makes you think that i have nothing else to do but come here and reply to your posts?! Are you serious?! Go and start over again if you want. Also make a second forum account so you can reply to your own posts. Because this is my last post in this topic. Have fun. :D

 

P.S. Ellanios was inactive and nobody was complaining about anything or anyone. Ellanios became active again and then he is complaining that everything is wrong, unfair, harsh etc while ~5 players are complaining about him already.


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Posted 05 October 2015 - 04:58 PM

css VAC = setti CSS ban and CSGO VAC = Setti CSGO ban, IMO :popcorn: and that "person" was me obviously. I've told to Snipy many times that I got VAC from CSS and also I've been banned from Setti servers before from cheating in non-steam client when I was ignorant kid...

So you've got 1) VAC ban & 2) admin ban because of cheating?

 

 

css VAC = setti CSS ban and CSGO VAC = Setti CSGO ban.

There is no difference. And SourceBans doesn't make a difference too if I'm correct. It's so much the same game, please give a reasonably explanation why you think that the bans from CSS should be all removed for CSGO.

 

How is it possible for VAC banned players to join the servers?






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