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#1 MvPRO Administrator

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 04:55 AM

1.
95.161.22.66 - 10+ fake servers
92.255.21.14 - servers from the owner of 95.161.22.66
95.154.146.37 - 2+ fake servers
93.100.51.94 - 5+ fake servers
87.228.66.58: - 2+ fake servers
91.203.170.33 - 2+ fake servers
109.197.73.88 - 5+ fake servers

Expected punishment: ban IP permanently from SETTI master server!



2.
79.165.175.119:27510 - just 30 fakeplayers (always) + redirect
80.237.113.1:27016 - just 30 fakeplayers (always)
80.251.150.28:27016 - just 7+ fakeplayers (always) + redirect
80.93.176.43:27018 - just 4+ fakeplayers (always)
62.122.213.130:27015 - just 29 fakeplayers (always) + redirect
83.222.109.24:28179 - just 15+ fakeplayers (always)
94.140.226.25:27015 - just 10+ fakeplayers (always)
212.76.128.50:27022 - just 10+ fakeplayers (always)
78.153.0.156:27020 - just 2+ fakeplayers (always)
78.107.234.201:27020 - just 12+ fakeplayers (always)

Expected punishment: Temporary banned IP from SETTI master server



3.
77.220.186.17:27792 - Multiport of 1 server registration - redirect (to 77.220.186.17:27015)
89.179.242.85:28016 - Multiport of 1 server registration - redirect (to 89.179.242.85:27016)
89.108.110.100:27017 - caredsoft.com always keep spam in players console...I hope you will ban it!

Expected punishment: Permanently banned IP from SETTI master server


This is my first Extensive report. But i will try to report more.

Thanks for listen!
Lets make setti better!
Find servers which break rules and report!


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#2 Ghost

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Posted 29 August 2010 - 08:13 AM

Thanks.

I'll post here when redirect servers have been removed.

We've got to streamline removing servers from Setti' server list. Currently it's much manual work both finding the redirect servers and actually removing them from the list.

Servers with fake players are not that bad.

#3 MvPRO Administrator

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 01:10 AM

Thanks.

I'll post here when redirect servers have been removed.

We've got to streamline removing servers from Setti' server list. Currently it's much manual work both finding the redirect servers and actually removing them from the list.

It`s ok. I think you can create report section or web-form where any1 can report.

Servers with fake players are not that bad.

OK. I will consider it more.
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#4 Guest_alexandr

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 07:56 AM

I am using redirect server, when i move some servers to new address, because i dont want to lose players, that have old ip in favorites. Is that allowed?
Is dproto subserver option allowed? It is need for correct server reply and redirect some old client types.
Where i can read detailed rules about redirects?
Thank you.

#5 Ghost

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 10:10 AM

Redirect servers are not allowed.

#6 Guest_German

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 03:39 PM

Can I put Fake players?

#7 Guest_German

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 03:43 PM

I have 2 servers. When the first server is full 24/25, throws in the second. And if the second well is full of 24/25, then throws it at first. This is allowed?

#8 Ghost

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Posted 01 September 2010 - 04:25 PM

It is allowed to redirect players to your other server. It is not allowed to have fake servers redirecting players to a real server.

Fake players are allowed although it's extremely stupid. What do you think your normal players think of the server when they join and see that they've been fooled? <_<

#9 Guest_German

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 03:45 AM

Sorry for my english, i'm from russia and don't know it very good
Ban gets only a Fake server or real server too?
But Sub Server showed a real players, real map. He redirects to a different IP address only :)

#10 BGPower

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 05:45 AM

Expected punishment: Permanently banned IP from SETTI master server
213.222.47.113 = 30+ redirects servers
89.215.79.132 = 6+ redirect servers
82.119.88.209 = 40+ redirect servers

I hope it will help setti for better performance in the near future but you have to bann those hundred redirect servers.

#11 Ghost

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 07:33 AM

Banned from Setti lists:
82.119.88.209 = 40+ redirect servers

The one with 213.222.47.113 has clearly stated that he's got new server at another IP. I think it's cool as long as it's just temporary and he doesn't use fake server names.

Other than that we're still working on making everything much more automatical. This kind of manual work is not going to work in the long run.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:22 AM

What mean clear ?

this is clear http://css.setti.inf.../213.222.47.113

I see 30 fake 30/32 sloted servers and didn't understand what you mean ?

#13 MvPRO Administrator

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 11:24 AM

Banned from Setti lists:
82.119.88.209 = 40+ redirect servers

The one with 213.222.47.113 has clearly stated that he's got new server at another IP. I think it's cool as long as it's just temporary and he doesn't use fake server names.

Other than that we're still working on making everything much more automatical. This kind of manual work is not going to work in the long run.

It`s OK, but they get players because of breaking rules! For example:
72.  	  CS    	  --------Новая [Москва]-------- 47/48   	  Join    	 32/32  	     	 188.243.230.154:27027   	 de_nuke2010
* from gametracker.com

It`s from 2 weeks 20+ fakeservers. <_< <_< <_<


About: 213.222.47.113

Did you understand, that in server list there are 20 servers IN A ROW which beat people opinion about setti master server? People cant see any servers except fu**ing fakes!!!
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#14 b00bs

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 12:36 PM

The one with 213.222.47.113 has clearly stated that he's got new server at another IP. .

Those scamers will always lie to your eyes without blinking :D .
geez just perm ban that nonsense:
213.222.47.113

#15 Ghost

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 06:12 PM

Banned.

Hmm.. quick "solution" to this would be to limit listing only for example 8 servers per IP. Then the maximum of fake servers per IP would be 8. There wouldn't be 100 fake servers on the list. This would also limit normal server admins to 8 servers per IP, but I don't know any servers which have 8 or more servers in the same IP. I know it's possible, but I don't know any real servers. That's why it might be possible meanwhile we get better solution. Whaddaya think?

Now I'll try to streamline the process of banning servers from the list. It's too difficult at the moment.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 09:28 PM

Banned.

Hmm.. quick "solution" to this would be to limit listing only for example 8 servers per IP. Then the maximum of fake servers per IP would be 8. There wouldn't be 100 fake servers on the list. This would also limit normal server admins to 8 servers per IP, but I don't know any servers which have 8 or more servers in the same IP. I know it's possible, but I don't know any real servers. That's why it might be possible meanwhile we get better solution. Whaddaya think?

Now I'll try to streamline the process of banning servers from the list. It's too difficult at the moment.


Not good solution.
For example: http://css.setti.inf...h/92.241.176.65 - all servers are real (they have really powerful hardware)
And if it is possible dont ban servers IP with activated dproto subservers please. Many admins create subserver just for help players with old client version but not for a spam. Subservers send only real info (players, slots) about real server, so they are not fake.

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 09:46 PM


Banned.

Hmm.. quick "solution" to this would be to limit listing only for example 8 servers per IP. Then the maximum of fake servers per IP would be 8. There wouldn't be 100 fake servers on the list. This would also limit normal server admins to 8 servers per IP, but I don't know any servers which have 8 or more servers in the same IP. I know it's possible, but I don't know any real servers. That's why it might be possible meanwhile we get better solution. Whaddaya think?

Now I'll try to streamline the process of banning servers from the list. It's too difficult at the moment.


Not good solution.
For example: http://css.setti.inf...h/92.241.176.65 - all servers are real (they have really powerful hardware)
And if it is possible dont ban servers IP with activated dproto subservers please. Many admins create subserver just for help players with old client version but not for a spam. Subservers send only real info (players, slots) about real server, so they are not fake.

These servers are empty.

If all of them will be full it will be really laggy.
Lets make setti better!
Find servers which break rules and report!


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#18 MvPRO Administrator

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Posted 07 September 2010 - 03:29 PM

So.... Will they get banned????
95.161.22.66 - 10+ fake servers

92.255.21.14 - servers from the owner of 95.161.22.66

95.154.146.37 - 2+ fake servers

93.100.51.94 - 5+ fake servers

87.228.66.58: - 2+ fake servers

91.203.170.33 - 2+ fake servers

109.197.73.88 - 5+ fake servers

or they will decrease setti reputation and normal servers online by 85% ever?
Lets make setti better!
Find servers which break rules and report!


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#19 Li33ard

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 02:34 PM

Dear Setti Administration!

First of all I'd like to say how much I appriciate your work around setting and support such a service for free. I guess a lot of players and admins around the world share my oppinion.

I am using your service a bit less than a year, that is since December 2009. My server runs on dynamic ip address and I used to register it using dynamic dns name lx.selfip.org. Since I use dproto 0.8.68 I had configured it for using a secondary redirect server for old protocol support. It uses port 27056, while the main server runs on 27055. Lately my server was removed from your registry and the statistics shows it is offline despite the fact the server is up and running and the routing works fine. Looking through all recent forum discussions I came to some conclusions.

In my humble oppinion, you shouldn't remove all the clones or redirect servers that shares one ip address, just remove all of them but one , e.g. with the least port number. Further on, you should not ban ip addresses because tomorrow the spammer server would change it to a new one and will register it in your database again, while a law-abiding server will receive a banned from your service ip. As for me it is not fair. And the last suggestion to improve your service is to create some mechanism that in case of registering a dynamic ip, the system would not register new server ip addresses leaving the old in the database but alter them to new.

Thank you in advance for your time to read my suggestions.

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 05:36 PM

Thanks for feedback.

I don't think your server has been removed because of one redirect server. What is your server IP or the host name?

The system itself got little bit overloaded due to all the thousands of redirect servers. The system is stll in process of getting back to normal. That might have caused for example your dynamic IP server not being "followed" as fast as usually. Registering new redirect servers isn't as easy as it was, so it seems we've solved the redirect problem.




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