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#1 rushon_

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 03:42 PM

Hi, i have a big problem..

Since Setti got first time down in january i got this freakin awesome laggs. My PC is quite good, my connections too. I have already reinstalled CSS2010 by DZ. I just dont know what to do.. All other online games works fine.. just CSS not.

Every time i join a server i can play maybe 5mins.. then its gonna laggin craze, then, after 20 secs its ok again, after 5mins it repeats again.. and so on. Please Help ME OUT! :|

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 04:31 PM

If it's just CS:S then try some other server. If those lag too then there's nothing to be done. Maybe CS:S uses more traffic than other games.

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 05:00 PM

The funiest thingy is that all other players never lag, just maybe 1-2 times a month ^^ just I lag like hell, laggin with a ping with 50ms

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 05:59 PM

omg, i lag on every server, does somebody know habe a solution, please help :(

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 07:02 PM

post your config file here, i have heard that sometimes too "smart" config in CSS causes lags.

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 07:05 PM

2. maybe you have viruses in PC...also can cause lags

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 07:13 PM

yea, possible. i checked my pc, nothing found.. so idk :cry:

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 07:37 PM

Open this file c:gamescsscstrikecfgconfig.cfg with Word Pad. Copy text, which you see there and past it here.

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 08:01 PM

I found something in the Inet:

On my CS:S Shortcut there is now: -heapsize 524288 -nojoy -dxlevel 81 -refresh 75 -w 800 -h 600
I start my CS:S as admin, and i have vista..
I heard about IE which could also speed down CS:S, so i set upped the security levels to low..
In my console there is rate 25000 cl_update/cmdrate to 100

None of these helped really.. maybe it has made my ping 5ms smaller but its not really important. The laggst still be there..

Here is the config, I have the default one http://css.setti.inf...tyle_emoticons/default/icon_e_confused.gif

unbindall
bind "TAB" "+showscores"
bind "ENTER" "messagemode"
bind "ESCAPE" "cancelselect"
bind "SPACE" "+jump"
bind "," "buyammo1"
bind "." "buyammo2"
bind "/" "messagemode2"
bind "0" "slot10"
bind "1" "slot1"
bind "2" "slot2"
bind "3" "slot3"
bind "4" "slot4"
bind "5" "slot5"
bind "6" "slot6"
bind "7" "slot7"
bind "8" "slot8"
bind "9" "slot9"
bind "`" "toggleconsole"
bind "a" "+moveleft"
bind "b" "buymenu"
bind "c" "+duck"
bind "d" "+moveright"
bind "e" "+use"
bind "f" "drop"
bind "g" "impulse 201"
bind "h" "commandmenu"
bind "i" "showbriefing"
bind "j" "cheer"
bind "k" "+voicerecord"
bind "l" "impulse 100"
bind "m" "chooseteam"
bind "n" "nightvision"
bind "o" "buyequip"
bind "q" "lastinv"
bind "r" "+reload"
bind "s" "+back"
bind "t" "radio2"
bind "w" "+forward"
bind "x" "radio1"
bind "y" "radio3"
bind "SHIFT" "+speed"
bind "F1" "autobuy"
bind "F2" "rebuy"
bind "F3" "askconnect_accept"
bind "F4" "bug"
bind "F5" "jpeg"
bind "F6" "save quick"
bind "F7" "load quick"
bind "F10" "quit prompt"
bind "MWHEELDOWN" "invnext"
bind "MWHEELUP" "invprev"
bind "MOUSE1" "+attack"
bind "MOUSE2" "+attack2"
bind "PAUSE" "pause"
cl_righthand "1"
cl_rumblescale "1.0"
cl_debugrumble "0"
cl_team "default"
cl_class "default"
cl_detail_max_sway "5"
cl_detail_avoid_radius "64"
cl_detail_avoid_force "0.4"
cl_detail_avoid_recover_speed "0.25"
cl_chatfilters "31"
cc_linger_time "1.0"
cc_predisplay_time "0.25"
cc_subtitles "0"
cc_lang ""
crosshair "1"
cl_observercrosshair "1"
cam_snapto "0"
cam_idealyaw "90"
cam_idealpitch "0"
cam_idealdist "64"
c_maxpitch "90"
c_minpitch "0"
c_maxyaw "135"
c_minyaw "-135"
c_maxdistance "200"
c_mindistance "30"
c_orthowidth "100"
c_orthoheight "100"
joy_name "joystick"
joy_forwardthreshold "0.15"
joy_sidethreshold "0.15"
joy_pitchthreshold "0.15"
joy_yawthreshold "0.15"
joy_forwardsensitivity "-1"
joy_sidesensitivity "1"
joy_pitchsensitivity "1"
joy_yawsensitivity "-1"
joy_response_move "1"
joy_response_look "0"
joy_lowend "1"
joy_lowmap "1"
joy_accelscale "0.6"
joy_autoaimdampenrange "0"
joy_autoaimdampen "0"
joy_diagonalpov "0"
joy_display_input "0"
joy_wingmanwarrior_turnhack "0"
cl_upspeed "320"
cl_forwardspeed "400"
cl_backspeed "400"
lookspring "0"
lookstrafe "0"
joystick "0"
m_pitch "0.022"
m_filter "1"
sensitivity "5.500000"
m_side "0.8"
m_yaw "0.022"
m_forward "1"
m_customaccel "0"
m_customaccel_scale "0.04"
m_customaccel_max "0"
m_customaccel_exponent "1"
m_mouseaccel1 "0"
m_mouseaccel2 "0"
m_mousespeed "1"
cl_mouselook "1"
cl_idealpitchscale "0.8"
net_graph "0"
net_scale "5"
net_graphpos "1"
net_graphsolid "1"
voice_modenable "1"
hud_fastswitch "1"
muzzleflash_light "1"
cl_buy_favorite_quiet "0"
cl_buy_favorite_nowarn "0"
cl_autowepswitch "1"
cl_autohelp "1"
cl_radartype "0"
cl_radaralpha "255"
cl_locationalpha "150"
cl_crosshaircolor "0"
cl_dynamiccrosshair "1"
cl_scalecrosshair "1"
cl_crosshairscale "400"
cl_crosshairalpha "20"
cl_crosshairusealpha "0"
cl_radar_locked "0"
overview_preferred_mode "1"
overview_preferred_view_size "600"
hud_classautokill "1"
overview_health "1"
overview_names "1"
overview_tracks "1"
overview_locked "1"
overview_alpha "1.0"
spec_scoreboard "0"
cl_spec_mode "1"
commentary_firstrun "0"
scene_showfaceto "0"
ai_report_task_timings_on_limit "0"
ai_think_limit_label "0"
npc_height_adjust "1"
sv_pvsskipanimation "1"
scene_showlook "0"
scene_showmoveto "0"
commentary "0"
xbox_throttlebias "100"
xbox_throttlespoof "200"
xbox_autothrottle "1"
func_break_max_pieces "15"
suitvolume "0.25"
sv_noclipaccelerate "5"
sv_noclipspeed "5"
sv_specaccelerate "5"
sv_specspeed "3"
sv_specnoclip "1"
sv_skyname "de_cobble_hdr"
sv_backspeed "0.6"
joy_wingmanwarrior_centerhack "0"
joy_axisbutton_threshold "0.3"
voice_forcemicrecord "1"
voice_enable "1"
voice_scale "1"
snd_duckerthreshold "0.15"
snd_duckerreleasetime "2.5"
snd_duckerattacktime "0.5"
snd_ducktovolume "0.55"
adsp_debug "0"
dsp_dist_max "1440.0"
dsp_dist_min "0.0"
snd_mixahead "0.1"
snd_musicvolume "0.000000"
volume "1.0"
snd_pitchquality "1"
snd_digital_surround "0"
vprof_warningmsec "10"
vprof_unaccounted_limit "0.3"
vprof_verbose "1"
vprof_graphheight "256"
vprof_graphwidth "512"
texture_budget_background_alpha "128"
texture_budget_panel_bottom_of_history_fraction ".25"
texture_budget_panel_height "284"
texture_budget_panel_width "512"
texture_budget_panel_y "450"
texture_budget_panel_x "0"
budget_panel_height "384"
budget_panel_width "512"
budget_panel_y "50"
budget_panel_x "0"
budget_background_alpha "128"
budget_bargraph_range_ms "16.6666666667"
budget_panel_bottom_of_history_fraction ".25"
budget_history_range_ms "66.666666667"
budget_history_numsamplesvisible "100"
budget_show_history "1"
budget_show_averages "0"
budget_show_peaks "1"
budget_averages_window "30"
budget_peaks_window "30"
budget_bargraph_background_alpha "128"
r_gamma "0.5"
sv_forcepreload "0"
sv_voiceenable "1"
sv_logbans "0"
sv_log_onefile "0"
sv_logecho "1"
sv_logflush "0"
sv_logfile "1"
sv_logsdir "logs"
dsp_enhance_stereo "0"
dsp_volume "1.0"
dsp_slow_cpu "0"
cl_allowupload "1"
mp_decals "200"
r_drawmodelstatsoverlaymax "1.5"
r_drawmodelstatsoverlaymin "0.1"
r_ambientfactor "5"
r_ambientfraction "0.1"
r_ambientmin "0.3"
r_ambientboost "1"
r_eyesize "0"
r_eyeshift_z "0"
r_eyeshift_y "0"
r_eyeshift_x "0"
r_eyemove "1"
r_eyegloss "1"
skill "1"
closecaption "0"
con_enable "1"
cl_downloadfilter "all"
cl_allowdownload "1"
cl_forcepreload "0"
cl_soundfile "sound/player/jingle.wav"
cl_logofile "materials/vgui/logos/fuck-you2.vtf"
cl_timeout "30"
cl_showpluginmessages "1"
tv_nochat "0"
sv_unlockedchapters "1"
cl_updaterate "100"
cl_cmdrate "100"
bgmvolume "1"
password ""
name "RS?N'"



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Posted 16 March 2010 - 08:45 PM

I heard about IE which could also speed down CS:S, so i set upped the security levels to low..

Wherever you heard it it was wrong. But originally it might have had some truth in it.

Some firewall / antivirus programs are stupid enough to check each incoming UDP packet that comes in to a computer. When you play CS:S or any online game there will be 33 - 100 packets coming in every second. If the firewall / antivirus program is stupid it will scan each UDP packet for viruses. That might cause latency in your connection.

I didn't believe this theory myself before I saw it happen maybe 5 years ago. Even back then (in 2005) there had been lots of antivirus programs and these issues were common. Still antivirus / firewall program developers were stupid enough to make programs that do that kind of stupid stuff from one version to another. So turn off your antivirus and firewall programs and try again.

I'm 99.99% certain that the problem is not in your CS:S configs or in CS:S in general. The problem might be in your ISP (internet service provider) which routes data from your country to Setti through non-optimal routers. That has happened before and no-one can actually fix it, it's the internet messing with your connection. This has happened few times for players from Israel and Romania.

2. maybe you have viruses in PC...also can cause lags

This is possible. Some virus might periodically send spam or do other network stuff from your computer which consumes all your bandwidth and causes lag. Then it stops for a while and starts again.

post your config file here, i have heard that sometimes too "smart" config in CSS causes lags.

Not true. What would be the config option that causes such lag? There is none. Don't post mis-information on the internet.

Edit: You would be able to track your internet connection with WinMTR but unfortunately the threads about WinMTR were lost in the site update. Ask TupaC for details.
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Posted 16 March 2010 - 08:56 PM

Well, i read a minute ago, a guy said ATI graphic cards (so mine too) hate directX 7,8 and causes this laggs in CS:S. SO i added to my shortcut -dxlevel 90 (it was 81 before) and now it seems like to be better. Im not sure.. I will report after playin a hour :/

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Posted 16 March 2010 - 10:09 PM

Where did you read it?
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 06:45 AM

@k1ller, i am just curious in everything so find out this info in inet, maybe optimized config will not help him much, its true. However today i have found something, which may help to Rushon test his inet connection:

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This is our office PC, heh :mrgreen: need to show that to our boss now, we live like in stone age! need to test now home inet.

@rushon, go to http://www.speedtest.net :)

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 02:59 PM

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this one was the connection to Leipzig. As much as i know the setti server is in Nuremburg. Thats with Nuremburg:

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 03:31 PM

This is all I tried, nothing helps:

1. My PC requirements are fully OK
2. My Internet Connection IS OK
3. I had Antivirus & Firewall OFF and after that CS:S still produce lag
4. I have added a lot of words to my CS:S Shortcut (including heapsize, dxlevel)
5. I have checked my PC with an AntiVirus of 2007.. My PC seems like to be clean
6. My IN-Game stats are -rate 25000- -cl_cmdrate 100- -cl_updaterate 100-
7. My IN-Game graphics settings are all to LOW and WinX is 800 WinY is 600
8. I tried to join a lot of Servers.. The lag won't stop.


My Situation listed again:

Every Time I join a CS:Server i got a ping like 41-100ms. After playin 5-10 mins its gonna lagging (!Heavy, up to 400ms). So i can't even moving or something. I wait 10-30 secs, it plays OK again. After 5-10 mins it begins lagging again. Like a loop or something.. So, none of these tips worked. Thanks for everybody, but its not enough, Sorry.


Please Help :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 03:34 PM

Connection speed does not tell the whole truth. Think of this scenario: you have 1000 DVDs that you take to your friend's house 10km away. Latency is very big (time it takes for you to go there) but throughput (amount of data transferred) is very good.

Wikipedia tells you more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_pe ... throughput
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... net_gaming

You can use WinMTR to test your connection latencies. Unfortunately the threads about WinMTR were lost in the site update. Ask TupaC for details. It's possible that occasionally the data packets that leave your computer travel "longer distance" in the internet before reaching Setti. The "longer distance" is usually caused by a router (usually home router or some router between your home computer and Setti) which handles packets slowly or routes packets to wrong direction which causes lag. WinMTR reveals you the routes that packets travel in the internet and you can identify whether it's your home router or some router somewhere on the internet that causes the latency to grow.
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Posted 17 March 2010 - 04:58 PM

how to find out setti's host, i thought typing in the webpage will be ok, but it writes "unable to resolve hostname", what to do now? :/

[color=red]EDIT: This time I have shut downed ONLY Firewall, then it was lagfree, huh?! First time as i quitted antivirus and firewall nothing happened. Now someways everything works fine :/ I've picked now my firewall on, took the css out from scanning and everything is oK. Just a question, it's not lagging heavy anymore, but there is sometimes a tiny lag like slowly moving or something? Do you know why it happens?

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 07:26 PM

Your firewall / anti-virus probably has some weird logic which thinks 66 UDP packets per second is not normal network traffic. Then it prioritizes normal TCP traffic over the UDP packets and your network goes slow. Then the game starts to lag.

Take a look at your firewall, anti-virus and router settings and see if there are "optimizations" enabled. Disable them all and then it should be ok.

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Posted 17 March 2010 - 08:41 PM

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This is home connection, after shutting down Firewall and Antivirus.

While they are on, shows like this:

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Thank you for the help too, from now on i will shut down all this stuff.

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Posted 19 March 2010 - 02:18 PM

aww, guys, again seomthing has changed to setti. a day before everything were lagfree and now.. again the same thing happends




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