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[AchiLLes]

my idea: a pc with quadcore (you can oc it later if you want)and the best videocard in this time...its also AM3 board so maybe you can use it with the hexacores in the next years...its up to you



yes this price
+20€ for the construction
+ around 100€ for win7 64bit

endprice for you: 695€

PS: everything in germany and delivery up to your door

[Sculder]

I wouldn't buy AMD cpu. If you only look at GHz it could look reasonable. But performance is not the same. Power consumption, heat. And plus Intel cpus overclocks so easily. You can increase ~0.4GHz without increasing voltage with stock cooler.

[AchiLLes]

maybe, a friend of mine has it and its very good cause his open multiplicator...thats my opinion^^ but ok

but i found a problem the power pack has only 400W... i didnt noticed it while configurating^^
just need to look for an other one...around 10€ more i think

and you can save 8€ if you dont wand blue LEDs in the blower

[Perplexer]

xshaines, I'll permban you if I find out you had the PC put together by someone else. You should do that by yourself so you know what you have inside and you know you took care and installed it properly. Buy the components separately.

I'll comment only on the important components.

CPU: I suggest Intel. Depending on the money you can get various Core i-series. I recommend Core i7-920 or Core i7-i860 (or something similar). 920 has a chipset supporting tripple channel memory, 860 has a chipset suporting dual channel memory. So that influences RAM, hence money (otherwise these CPUs are basically the same, performance- wise). Triple channel means 3 sticks, probably 2 GB per stick so thats 6 GB total. Dual channel is 2 stick, probably 2 GB per stick, 4 GB total. That's cheaper but 2 GB less. I'd probably still recommend Core i7-860 on LGA 1156, or something in that range. That will last you longer with great performance. And you can later get another 2 sticks of 2 GB for a total of 8 GB dual channel which will be plenty.

GFX: Decide on a good card. Not the best, but good. That's something you probably won't want to get outdated very soon. Don't count too much on going SLI or CrossFire in the future. You probably never will and even if you do, it will not be worth it then. A single GFX card setup will most likely be the best.

Motherboard: Check specs carefully. If you need RAID, go for a proper chipset. Check the PCI and PCI Express slot layout. Some motherboards are really awkward and a GFX card inserted in a PCIe slot can easily block the PCI slot below it, rendering it useless. Make sure that won't happen to you, in case you have any PCI peripherals at home and need to use them. ASUS or Gigabyte are OK.

PSU: Buy a good SINGLE RAIL (!) 600W or 750W power supply unit, silver or gold rated. Modular is nice so you can avoid cable clutter. Avoid cheap ones. A real world example: You know those short power fluctuations you sometimes have in your house ? There was a half a second power outage in my house recently and the PCs with good PSUs stayed on while the ones with cheap ones all shut down or rebooted. One of those then developed a RAID array failure and caused wasted time resolving that issue. Not worth it !

Check my thread just for reference:
http://css.setti.inf...3-perplexers-pc

[AchiLLes]

i must admit...very very very good post perp, i hope it will help him

[Gringo13]

I don't know about u guys but I would certainly want a SSD(MLC) installed in my new machine, ofc i would use it for system(windows, programs, css ) only and not storage, something about 60-80 GB any more gets way more expensive.

[shaines]

BIG thanks to you Perp
Greatly done !

[AchiLLes]

yeah gringo this would be an idea...but its shaines' problem^^
i have an RAID system of 2 raptors and thats in my opinion fast enough xD but otherwise...if i would buy an new pc today i think i would use a small SSD and a RAIDsystem,difficult..but its shianes' problem^^

[Sculder]

yeah gringo this would be an idea...but its shaines' problem^^
i have an RAID system of 2 raptors and thats in my opinion fast enough xD but otherwise...if i would buy an new pc today i think i would use a small SSD and a RAIDsystem,difficult..but its shianes' problem^^

What RAID configuration (0-6) you have? If its "0" post a link where system is tested and it shows tangible speed increase.

[AchiLLes]

yep raid 0 ...i want to explain it shaines, you need 2 similar HDDs. the point in raid 0 is that the data gets split up into two parts, so you got a faster reading. but they problem for an normal user is, that if one of the two HDDs fails the whole data is baam! of course raid is faster, but not as fast as a SSD and you have more risk then. so my advice is: one (or more) fast HDDs of high quality and maybe as gringo said a small SSD for windows

there are enough tests in the world wide web, if you want to inform yourself more about this stuff.

ps: i like raid 1 because you have a safe system then.